Vice-speaker of the State Duma
Arthur Chilingarov is a unique man in Russian
politics. A renowned arctic explorer, he spent two decades of his life in the
north. He is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records for his
accomplishments on the North and the South Poles. He was awarded the Hero of
the Soviet Union
for rescuing the ship “Mikhail Somov” in Antarctica
waters. His longevity in the Russian parliament is remarkable: he was elected
for the first time in 1993 from the Nienetz
Autonomous Region. Arthur Chilingarov has been
reelected for four consecutive terms. It is quite unlikely that there is any
other Russian politician who has so extensive an informal connection with the United
States as Arthur Chilingarov.
- Mr. Chilingarov, your initial acquaintance
with the United States took place during the times of the
Cold War...
- Yes, indeed. It happened in the ice-cold
arctic regions under rather unusual circumstances. In the fall of 1988, after
finishing the installation of a Soviet Scientific Exploration Station “Severniy Polus-31,” our team received a request from the
governor of Alaska
and other public organizations of the US
to assist in rescuing three whales that were trapped in ice off Alaska’s
coast. I made a decision to send our “Arseniev”
supply ship and the icebreaker “Admiral Makarov” to
help the whales. The entire United
States closely
followed our rescue efforts. The vessels were able to cut through the ice and
make way for the whales to get out. As a result, I received numerous letters
from the Americans, who thanked me for saving the animals. My superiors in the USSR,
however, reprimanded me for having altered the course of the ships.
After that, I met with the governor of Alaska
in Moscow
and, later, in the United
States. Mikhail Kassianov, future Prime Minister of Russia, was my
assistant and interpreter during those meetings. We set the basis for the
US-USSR cooperation in developing arctic projects.
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What is your favorite place in the US - what city or state?
- My favorite city is Las
Vegas. Though, one time, someone stole my
video-camera there. I also like Minneapolis.
I have warm memories about that city. While preparing for the International “Transantarctica” Expedition, I organized the flights of an
IL-76 aircraft that had to transport the expedition’s participants from 6
countries (USSR,
USA,
UK,
France,
Japan,
China)
to Antarctica by the fall
of 1989. It was during that time that our aircraft landed in Minneapolis,
which was traditionally closed to soviet planes.
- An American company Gore-tex
was actively involved in organizing that expedition. In Minneapolis,
the American side provided us with an experienced air navigator, whose skills
allowed our pilots to reach Cuba
with ease. In Minneapolis,
the government organized affectionate greeting and parting ceremonies for us
that impressed our group just as much as the local people. These were my most
enjoyed times in the United
States.
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During the various expeditions, did your work with the Americans go well? Did
any political stereotypes interfere with mutual understanding?
- Never. Artic explorers - regardless of their
country - are special people. They are prepared to risk their lives and labor
scrupulously in different corners of the planet to obtain scientific results
that would be valuable to the whole humanity. This is why the expeditions are
always marked by the spirit of fraternity and understanding. Global climate
problems can be resolved only with international cooperation of scientists from
different countries. An example of one such cooperation project that exists
already in the present day is the restoration of several exploration stations
in the arctic region that is conducted by the Russian Polar Foundation in
association with the National Science Foundation of the US.
There are numerous other partnerships in the field of science between Russian
and America.
I have visited the South Pole and its American
station Amundsen-Scott many times. During an
international inspection, which I headed, I visited many US
stations. Everybody greeted our group well. In January 2002, I delivered the
address of Russia’s
President Vladimir Putin to the international
community of arctic explorers. In his address, the President remarked that the
best traditions of US-Russia arctic partnership, fraternity, cooperation, and
mutual-assistance are alive and well in the new XXI century.
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You were one of the founders of Russia’s United Industrial Political Party
and acted as its chairman for a rather long time. How do Russian businessmen
look at the idea of economic partnerships with the United States?
- Yes. For several years, I was the chairman of Russia’s
United Industrial Party. The party consisted of industrialists and
entrepreneurs - both private and governmental - from various regions in Russia.
The party was open to workers and labor unions too. The programs of our party
included cooperation with business in the United
States. Certainly
Russian industries are very much interested in developing business connections
with the US.
One can find a number of potentially successful projects that would benefit
both sides well. I am well acquainted with the attitudes of Russian businessmen
in Moscow
as well as in Russia’s
northern regions (I worked there for many years and make frequently visits
there). I can assure you, Russian businesses are now prepared to establish
commercial ties with US partners. By the way, Russia’s
United Industrial Party has not disappeared off the political arena. Currently,
its leader is Elena Panina, a representative of the
State Duma and a famous Moscow
businesswoman.
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Could you name an example of a successful US-Russia partnership? What, in your
opinion, slows down the development of economic relations of Russian and America?
- One of the most vivid examples that I see on
regular basis is the work of the Russian-American joint enterprise “Poliarnoe Siyanie,” located in
the Nienetz Autonomous Region, which I have been
representing in the State Duma already for four
terms. American oil corporation Conoco invested
considerable funds into the development of that company. There are no regrets.
The company brings good profit. My district uses the oil tax money to solve
many social problems. I visited the company many times. It has fully modernized
equipment and - most importantly - does not create environmental pollution. The
ecologic damage to northern tundra is extremely difficult to repair. That may
be one of the avenues for US-Russia cooperation. The US,
to my knowledge, has developed a number of ecologically-clean technologies.
Touching the issue of obstacles to Russian-American cooperation, I must say
that the US Congress has not yet abrogated the Jackson-Vanik
amendment that discriminates against Russia
and prevents the creation of an optimally beneficial trade arrangement. The
amendment was ratified in Socialist times. Now, we have a market economy, as
well as a complete liberty of entrances and departures. Discrimination against Russia,
for some reason, still persists.
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To what extent, in your view, is current political climate in Russia favorable to American investment?
- The situation is much better than ten - or
even five - years ago. Stability is reached within Russia.
The economy has been developing steadily for several years already. Business
legislation improved significantly. Of course, there are more than a few
difficulties and obstacles for foreign investors. Most of them are tied to the
overly-bureaucratic decisions of executive agencies and the ineptitude of local
government officers. …But other countries have that too. The Russian government
- President Putin, personally - pays much attention
to these shortcomings. The situation will improve.
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How do Russian and American parliaments (State Duma
and US Congress) interact with each other.
- The interaction is an active one. We regularly
exchange official delegations as well as groups of parliamentary committees.
Tens of State Duma’s representatives visit the US
annually for international seminars, conferences, and symposiums. The hearings
of the Duma-Congress committee and its subcommittees
are held regularly. The committee’s members are parliamentary representatives
of Russia
and the US.
American congressmen, who come to Russia
for various events, are rather frequent visitors to the State Duma. We always greet them well. Such an intensive
parliamentary exchange helps strength the spirit of cooperation and trust
between the Russian and the American side.
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What is your advice to American businessmen, who would like to work with Russia?
- In Russia,
it is said that risk is a noble deed. I’d like to encourage American
businessmen not to fear risk. No serious business will be successful without risk.
I say this as an organizer of numerous polar expeditions, where I faced
countless risky situations. Certainly, the risk must be justified and
calculated. I’ve already spoken of that, but feel compelled to restate it again
- the situation in Russia
is significantly better than several years ago. It is now possible to risk.